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Форум Esoteric4u Forum Центр изучения Эзотерического Наследия и развития Сознания 2022-05-05T17:22:24 http://forum.esoteric4u.com/app.php/feed/topic/517 2022-05-05T17:22:24 2022-05-05T17:22:24 http://forum.esoteric4u.com/viewtopic.php?t=517&p=5047#p5047 <![CDATA[Re: Elhaz's Way]]>

Looking at how the project agreement works and particularly the reiki agreement. This might be something I can read and learn about and gain use from. Since I am mainly working on the physical level now, although the nutritional program is something special, causing the slow removal of blocks, traumas, distortions in and of itself on higher levels they do endorse the use of reiki if done correctly.. and if I can regain a state of health more quickly all the better for development of the next bodies. It looks like perhaps my current beliefs may be limiting the speed of my healing somewhat. I ran into many occasions of being able to do miraculous and fast healing for others and virtually nothing in terms of what I actually need for myself so maybe that's why.

I am questioning if I ever really had use of reiki or not, based on the reports of the group. I am thinking I did but without a great fixation of the assemblage point and now with less use it's even less. There was a better fixation on Reiki Yggdrasil.

Overall still struggling to explain why I am coming back here exactly other than what is more clear to me- to look back at where I was and how far I have managed to come and evaluate how well I have done, feeling and comparing myself with the energies that are here and our previous exchanges. I will continue to read.

Статистика: Добавлено Elhaz — Чт май 05, 2022 5:22 pm


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2022-05-05T03:19:35 2022-05-05T03:19:35 http://forum.esoteric4u.com/viewtopic.php?t=517&p=5046#p5046 <![CDATA[Re: Elhaz's Way]]> the post above
Monroe's training programs are designed to enable a person to achieve concrete results in a long and hard work.
Like any other practice - Monroe's techniques are part of his Agreement, his Other Worldview.

In order to be included in this Agreement, it is necessary to get acquainted with the books of Monroe and with the work of the Monroe Institute - to tune in to this Agreement, to this Worldview.

It is possible that you do not need all this and you are completely satisfied with your Healing.

Just do not confuse the ability to psychic, healing, or anything else, for example, to the collection of butterflies - with the Spiritual Development of personality.
Spiritual Development involves the consistent development of all The Bodies - from the lowest - of the Physical Body.

Therefore, the Developing Personality should monitor his health, lead a satisfying sex life, have an adequate partner, get an education, make a career in society, and at the same time, engage in self-development ...

Then, by the age of 40-50, such, developed in all the lower bodies of the Personality, will be able to begin a deeper immersion in the Spiritual Worlds.

But if a person from an early age considers himself something outstanding and is not ready, or is not able to work hard and seriously on his own development of all bodies, then by 40-50 years he becomes a siner and is not capable of anything but empty chatter, self-congratulation and lamentation of bitter fate...
Looks like this is very relevant and I sort of managed to luckily catch a footing with the rituals and begin to work on this development of the lower bodies - not be so enamored with psychic activity and seeing energy. I had been feeling quite disappointed that the fun has reduced of seeing and manipulating chakras- perhaps this is exactly what is appropriate for me for now, since the lowest body itself is in such bad condition that it needs much work. I was very excited by such things before and people liked it my excitement and thus it was a potential social advantage too. But perhaps that wasn't very sustainable.

Статистика: Добавлено Elhaz — Чт май 05, 2022 3:19 am


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2022-05-05T05:27:29 2022-05-05T02:32:54 http://forum.esoteric4u.com/viewtopic.php?t=517&p=5045#p5045 <![CDATA[Re: Elhaz's Way]]>
Events lined up in life and I got a hair tissue mineral analysis test and I found out the reason for the health struggle.. Due to some personality tendencies, life situations I have experienced, bad luck, substance use, and mistakes with diet and nutritional supplements, I was truly in a very bad state, bordering on the development of all manner of diseases. About as bad as this sort of test can display. Definitely bad enough to warrant feeling like standing is a lot of exertion.

I was still too scattered mentally and spiritually to do much about this until I went through several rituals, a meeting with death and a dedication through death. Then I became much more focused on what is important for me to do. I quit nicotine and other things I was taking to keep going. Since then, 03/21, I have been spending most of my time every day restoring my health, with a targeted supplement program, coffee enemas, red lamp sauna therapy, eating 9 cups of cooked vegetables a day, complete celibacy (semen retention), and at least an hour of pulling energy downward through my body, which is an exercise intended to nourish all of the chakras. The program is something which garners high quality results if lots of hard work is applied. So it's good I found something like this which is appropriate and have been able to do it.

The health of all chakras has at least improved according to the project agreement as I remember it- along Swadisthan healthier relationships have appeared although non sexual, along Manipura, I have graduated holistic school and am beginning to plan a business, etc, perhaps these friendships and improved family relationships qualify as an improved body of Anahata.. I think my mind could be clearer, a bit lacking maybe there.. in general the improvements in centering, overall energy are huge. I feel much better.

But my health overall will likely still take several years more to fully restore and maybe about a year more to be more normal. I have a bit of money and can stay home and attend to that. I will go in for surgery soon for my left hand unless I find another solution..

Other than this, my questions about life are definitely beginning to become more philosophical. The environment where I live is very harsh and low vibrational (Southern California), Resonates at maybe low Manipura.. I am very different now, too- less bright eyed and bushy tailed, I am much clearer in myself. Many others seem misguided or asleep. I am able to form fairly satisfying relationships with women (as friends for right now) on the basis of qualities like communication, healthy personality, interests however which is a good sign I am not becoming too different too fast.. I am beginning to see how increased wisdom and development brings sorrow though.

The question is beginning to arise, all these things, business, perhaps a relationship- why must I do all of that and how must it be, what qualities will I thrive around- as a matter of finding important intrinsic motivation. As one example I have learned through restraining my sexual impulse that this energy can likely do some amazing things with the right partner and used the right way, so the way relationships are 'normally' done needs to itself be reconsidered.

I will also share that I was in a relationship for a little while last year, she was a traditional Yoruba shaman, but her worldview was very strong and in conflict with mine and it damaged me. The energetic interaction between us was powerful and interesting but overall not positive in the end. I am definitely seeing, in this way and in many others how energy is lost if the assemblage point is pushed off its place. I feel a sense of struggle not having my own clear and strong worldview.

For example, I don't find my nutritional program, which is actually called a Development program-it is a diet, lifestyle, and procedures for spiritual development- to be somehow enough for me. I am definitely interested in more intensive and specific magical activities. So I spent some time studying with a South Indian Tamil group, but found them to be in conflict with me in subtle ways, too. But I felt more engaged, less bored, too, when working with them. It may be that my development program is more of a solid foundational thing. Or maybe the boredom is the problem..

Perhaps that is why I feel the urge to drop in here, now. I am still not sure if there will be conflict so I will be trying to guard my world view or at least be mindful of this impact. I am not sure that I even need anything. I am acting on a sort of spiritual nudge, an intuition. I am not sure what else to say so please forgive my shabby presentation and lack of clear intention in coming here, if you can- I will just post.

Elhaz

Статистика: Добавлено Elhaz — Чт май 05, 2022 2:32 am


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2020-06-29T07:02:35 2020-06-29T07:02:35 http://forum.esoteric4u.com/viewtopic.php?t=517&p=4986#p4986 <![CDATA[Re: Elhaz's Way]]>
Maybe all along I could have and should have been satisfied with my healing since I'm capable of doing something real, but it helps to be in contact with people who have already succeeded and have mature personalities that may bring the shadow side forward but don't humor it in any way once it's up front.

It seems that is consistently the effect here, with you- painful, then it helps, sometimes very painful, but always, it helps actually move forward and understand better.

I appreciate that.

Статистика: Добавлено Elhaz — Пн июн 29, 2020 7:02 am


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2020-06-25T09:01:26 2020-06-25T09:01:26 http://forum.esoteric4u.com/viewtopic.php?t=517&p=4982#p4982 <![CDATA[Re: Elhaz's Way]]> Like any other practice - Monroe's techniques are part of his Agreement, his Other Worldview.

In order to be included in this Agreement, it is necessary to get acquainted with the books of Monroe and with the work of the Monroe Institute - to tune in to this Agreement, to this Worldview.

It is possible that you do not need all this and you are completely satisfied with your Healing.

Just do not confuse the ability to psychic, healing, or anything else, for example, to the collection of butterflies - with the Spiritual Development of personality.
Spiritual Development involves the consistent development of all The Bodies - from the lowest - of the Physical Body.

Therefore, the Developing Personality should monitor his health, lead a satisfying sex life, have an adequate partner, get an education, make a career in society, and at the same time, engage in self-development ...

Then, by the age of 40-50, such, developed in all the lower bodies of the Personality, will be able to begin a deeper immersion in the Spiritual Worlds.

But if a person from an early age considers himself something outstanding and is not ready, or is not able to work hard and seriously on his own development of all bodies, then by 40-50 years he becomes a siner and is not capable of anything but empty chatter, self-congratulation and lamentation of bitter fate...

Статистика: Добавлено Философ — Чт июн 25, 2020 9:01 am


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2020-06-25T00:54:25 2020-06-25T00:54:25 http://forum.esoteric4u.com/viewtopic.php?t=517&p=4981#p4981 <![CDATA[Re: Elhaz's Way]]>
Have you tried to work with the "Opening the Heart", perform exercises and achieve results?
The result of the Open Heart should be not only in some new sensations, but also in the new perception of the world, in new actions, in a new vision of one's life ...
With the provided audio, I have tried a couple times, another time tonight, and haven't been able to find myself in a condition lately where I can do a long meditation. Have tried maybe 5 times. Each time I get to 15 minutes and I realize I am simply not getting there or truly involved in the meditation. I'm sure I could make all 45 minutes with a grim, clenched determination, but there is no point to that..

The difficulty I find with relaxation exercises (like something simply will not loosen up, like I'm not getting deeper) is one of the main things I am seeking healers about, yet refuse to actually say, since it makes me feel like I must be just lazy, but even in going to massage school which should be helpful for bodily awareness so I can properly relax, it doesn't improve, I haven't been able to find any direction of consistent effort that improves it either. Sometimes it's better sometimes it isn't..

Maybe there is some type of trauma or tension from something in the past I haven't been able to access. Or maybe I really am just doing something wrong, but it feels more like my activities are diverted around some kind of block. Anything that only demands Alpha brainwaves is doable and I've made good progress on.

I messaged Oracle about this, I think it's a good direction to get help with healing, maybe instead of working around an obstacle seeing the obstacle as what needs work will right some things.

I think this is relevant, On Osho's "Why Active Meditation" page.
“Whenever you are in chaos, the brain stops. You are driving a car and suddenly someone comes in front of you. You push the brake so suddenly that it is not a work of the brain. It cannot be because the brain takes time: it thinks: what to do, what not to do. So whenever there is a possibility of an accident and you push the brake, you will feel the sensation near your navel, never near your brain. You will feel that your stomach is upset, because your total consciousness is being pushed because of the chaotic accident. If it could be calculated before and predicted then there would be no need, then there would be no need. Mind would do, brain would do. Whenever you are in an accident, unknown, something unknown comes to you, you will see that consciousness comes to the navel....

“If you ask a Zen monk, 'From where do you think?' he will put his hands to his stomach. When Westerners came in contact with Japanese monks for the first time, they could not understand: 'What nonsense! How can you think from the stomach? No one thinks from the stomach.' But the Zen reply is meaningful. Consciousness can use any center of the body, and the most primary and the most near to the original source is the navel, and the most far off is the brain. So if life energy goes outward, then ultimately the center of consciousness will become the brain. If life energy goes inward, then ultimately the navel will become the center.

“Otherwise you will only verbalize and go on verbalizing, and there will be no transformation and no change. Even if you know the right things you will not be transformed, because it is not enough to know right things. One has to go to the roots, and one has to change and transform the roots. Otherwise you will not change....

“And sometimes a person is in even more difficulty when he knows the right things and cannot do anything. A new impatience, a new tension arises – he becomes doubly tense. He understands and he cannot do. Understanding can only be meaningful when you understand from the navel. Otherwise it is never meaningful. If you understand from the brain, then it is not transforming.
I think I'm getting some heart opening results anyway, having had my attention on it for several months.. The Oracle sent me the Tree of Life meditation, this is easier for me since it's shorter and active, it is helping.
Astral projections are not an end in themselves, although many people think that this is the most important thing.
The main thing is to build your own life, create a family, build a career, a house, a garden, the birth of children - and after all this, at the appropriate age - the realization of the Spiritual World.
No comprehension is possible without personal experience in lower bodies and in appropriate age periods.

Try to realize it and not to waste precious time of life.
I agree. Spiritual topics and energy have presented themselves already due to my nature, but it was very clear when you noted I am still at the astral stage. I thought, yes- with so much real world growth and maturity to gain it couldn't be any other way and it can't be forced. I am not just saying that, I feel it. So right now the search is for what really needs healing in me, and refining my seeking and not getting attached to so many things along the way, and thank you for helping me clarify this..

It has been difficult to think of healing as directly solving all lifes problems, since the physical is so dense, if I want to go to school, there's many things I have to do to even get a loan once I find an appropriate program, which is difficult enough in itself when not convinced of the efficacy of social medicine yet seeking something that will provide money to live. Over the last couple years I have been thinking more along the lines of reducing what causes me discomfort and confusion, restoring health, figuring out who I really am and my true nature, and figured all of that will fall into line over time.

A good chance to try work with the Reiki channel.. My dad went to some sparring gym, and dislocated or broke his little toe such that it was pointing outward at a 90 degree angle. So I re-taped it and gave him Reiki but did it differently than I was taught originally. I tried to tune in to injury in his foot, moved the assemblage point up, tuned into Cho Ku Rei and Sei Hei Ki and then held my hands there.. He said he felt energy all the way up to the center of his chest and that I had extremely hot hands, and later on in the day said the pain level was only maybe a 3 or 4 and there was no bruising or swelling like might be expected, and a couple days later it seems almost healed, much further along than it should be.

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2020-06-22T03:05:43 2020-06-22T03:05:43 http://forum.esoteric4u.com/viewtopic.php?t=517&p=4979#p4979 <![CDATA[Re: Elhaz's Way]]> The result of the Open Heart should be not only in some new sensations, but also in the new perception of the world, in new actions, in a new vision of one's life...

Astral projections are not an end in themselves, although many people think that this is the most important thing.
The main thing is to build your own life, create a family, build a career, a house, a garden, the birth of children - and after all this, at the appropriate age - the realization of the Spiritual World.
No comprehension is possible without personal experience in lower bodies and in appropriate age periods.

Try to realize it and not to waste precious time of life.

Статистика: Добавлено Философ — Пн июн 22, 2020 3:05 am


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2020-06-21T20:46:54 2020-06-21T20:46:54 http://forum.esoteric4u.com/viewtopic.php?t=517&p=4978#p4978 <![CDATA[Re: Elhaz's Way]]>
Right now the chakra meditations are dredging up what causes me to be in a lot of physical pain, that provoke anxiety and tensions that make it difficult to relax. It seems relevant to the process of improving meditations or having OOBEs. I have read the first book provided by Monroe..

I have had some success with lucid dreams lately, probably more than I have ever had before, but this isn't astral projection, it's more fuzzy, I've been practicing to do things like jumping, to hop up on a plank and actually land on it, or to grab for a streetlight. Or to change locations. This one ended when I tried to leap forward, my environment disassembled, corkscrewed counterclockwise along with my dreaming body and then I was awake again.

Other weird states, too, like being in a different bed, different house, intending to keep my mind awake but let me body go to sleep, but not realizing I am already dreaming, and ending up "sub"lucid dreaming, where I am aware I am dreaming but without realizing that the preceding state was not being awake. If that makes sense. The vibrational state has not been reached.

I get to these states by using my body's natural falling asleep, but staying aware and awake mentally, and letting thoughts fall away so I can go deeper. This is another slippery thing, difficult to get a hold of regularly, I have to be in a certain state of fatigue, calmness, otherwise, when I wake up I am immediately completely awake, there will be no napping during the day, and it is hard to get to bed, and there will be no use trying to let myself fall asleep during the day or deeply relax. Hmm..

Something slightly different happened recently. It has happened before, only once. A kind of vortex in the third eye area appears, it is visible. By going into that tunnel, I pop out in the astral, with a popping feeling, but again, without my body, there is no body there, my body remains where it is but part of my consciousness goes somewhere else. The first time this happened I saw my roommate at the time, and thousands or even infinite bags of sugar, and the feeling he was doing something nefarious. A month later he was kicked out of the house finally for pouring an entire pound of sugar directly down the drain. Very strange behavior. There is no hiss like Monroe describes with this but I suppose that's what this is.

This time I popped out in an extremely clear, bright blue sky, looking at a house on top of a hill, but I startled, and the experience ended. If these are predictive experiences maybe that means soon I can leave behind all the suffering and feeling confused about what my problem even is and begin to live a much better life.

Статистика: Добавлено Elhaz — Вс июн 21, 2020 8:46 pm


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2020-06-21T07:47:09 2020-06-21T07:47:09 http://forum.esoteric4u.com/viewtopic.php?t=517&p=4976#p4976 <![CDATA[Re: Elhaz's Way]]> You don't write anything about your experience with Monroe's materials and reading Monroe's books.
There is a feeling that you like to trample on one place and pour your emotions having the same conversation ...

Статистика: Добавлено Философ — Вс июн 21, 2020 7:47 am


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2020-06-21T06:47:00 2020-06-21T06:47:00 http://forum.esoteric4u.com/viewtopic.php?t=517&p=4975#p4975 <![CDATA[Re: Elhaz's Way]]> I feel like I'm waking up shifted every day. It isn't the first time I've been doing daily meditations, but definitely something is different now, maybe more mature perception, maybe different position of the assemblage point. There was a terrible attack of anxiety/irritability at the very start, after the meeting on Skype, not sure what that came from, but it's nothing new, so I dealt with it and kept going.. Starting to understand how my various problems link together better. It will still be a lot of work from here to get things functioning well, probably, but it all seems to have a kind of center, it's a cluster of related issues, there is a lot of good outside of that, so maybe I shouldn't say that.

I am watching, hunting down my tendency to swap agreements and move like a rabbit mentally, it's taking time but becoming more clear. Some things all fit together easily and are simply part of me and my worldview, other things require tuning, and the efficacy and results of them build as my fixation becomes stronger. I was not fully aware of that process before, probably it is my young age.

Noticing that I have significant problems consistently doing things, which relates to fear, indecision, but also some decisions I have made that haven't been ideal- valuing broad information over focused activity to obtain a deeper worldview. Also there is an instability of state that does not so much relate to swapping agreements, though partially, that makes building positive habits more difficult, I haven't gotten a hold on emotional causes for physical pain and tension, basically I am not "riding my rhythms" very well. Again, maybe age, but it is one of the things that has made my journey less harmonious.

A lot of work to be done with my relationship to my father is coming up doing this Chakra work. I've had to use some additional tools that I have to facilitate mutual understanding, but that's going well enough.

Understanding I don't have a typical human mind, and it isn't that I have autism or some kind of disease has been helpful. I had passed the disease idea a long time ago, but still, it's good to put a name to something. It's one of those things that has not been so easy to deal with, but I wouldn't trade it off for something else, it provides me with my Tao. Sometimes I have looked at people who have a practice that is replete with all the trimmings, looks to be so harmonious, felt inadequate, and not realized, these people are not actually doing anything other than another image building activity. Hence the non-struggle.

Статистика: Добавлено Elhaz — Вс июн 21, 2020 6:47 am


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2020-06-16T00:41:00 2020-06-16T00:41:00 http://forum.esoteric4u.com/viewtopic.php?t=517&p=4970#p4970 <![CDATA[Re: Elhaz's Way]]>
I Ching of this day:

Hexagram Thirty-Six/Line One:

The pheasant's wings falter and droop from exhaustion.
The man wanders three days without eating.
He goes where he must, though scorn awaits him.

Статистика: Добавлено Elhaz — Вт июн 16, 2020 12:41 am


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2020-06-15T06:10:11 2020-06-15T06:10:11 http://forum.esoteric4u.com/viewtopic.php?t=517&p=4968#p4968 <![CDATA[Re: Elhaz's Way]]>
People who are not capable of shifting their Assemblage Point - may think that they are doing either yoga, or even Runes, or Reiki - but, in fact, they are engaged in gymnastics for the tail - and nothing more.
In the case of a person who is able to shift his Assemblage Point - each practice shifts it into another Agreement, wastes his energy and the question is - what it gives him and why he does it.
It is necessary to choose the Agreement very carefully and fix in it, and not to jump like a rabbit over the Agreements...

We have given you enough explanations and materials to work on - work hard and achieve results.
Less words, more deeds!

Статистика: Добавлено Философ — Пн июн 15, 2020 6:10 am


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2020-06-15T19:45:22 2020-06-15T03:00:42 http://forum.esoteric4u.com/viewtopic.php?t=517&p=4966#p4966 <![CDATA[Re: Elhaz's Way]]>
As a result of these and perhaps a number of other differences, the Elves feel very uncomfortable in the world of people, for they are really different.
This sometimes leads the Elves to be knowledgeable, to pride and to neglect of people, which is very sad for them.
Therefore, the main task of the Elves is to learn to perceive and accept themselves and the people around, to learn to cooperate in a relationship.

It is necessary to understand that the True Elves live in the mountains, or in the ocean, the Elven Monads in the world of humans are degraded Elves who need correction. Therefore, there is nothing to be proud of - you need to work on yourself and learn.
Yes, conceit has been an issue in life. It seems like knowing this has reduced that feeling a bit. There is a positive emotional reaction and hopefully real change. Since if I know why I am where I am and that I'm working toward improving it I can be more and more secure.

This is the other reason I am searching. I have a deep sense there is some kind of profound damage to my being. When I received a diagnosis of karmic complexes, I looked at one category in particular- complexes which cause collision with extraterrestrial/galactic laws, considered by them to be among the most dangerous injuries, and I thought- I wonder if that's why I am even here right now. Not to say it is that, but I've thought along these lines.

The first step will be solving some problems of personal/social life, so I can do healing without picking up problems. Today I have been in a lot of physical pain and haven't even considered doing any kind of meditation or practice because of that, but I'm reading and thinking.

Edit, a bit later in the day, after sending a message to Philosopher, receiving in return only, You Are Stuck!! You must update your entire being.

Yes indeed. I am feeling the pain of my condition pretty acutely right now, both physically and mentally. I just tried to do the Osho Chakra breathing meditation and didn't feel like I could even remain standing while breathing like that. I couldn't even do it for 3 minutes with a doubled down effort. I have been having lung problems this year but it must be more than that. It isn't like I don't try to keep in shape, either.

So, I moved on to the Osho Chakra sound meditation and did that instead just now. It was easier to tune into the upper chakras than the lower ones. This seems to be a continuous issue, an ongoing lack of energy in the lower chakras. I feel like that at work, too, like it is simply difficult to keep standing and my upper back hurts. So it probably would have been more accurate to say that the most immediate problem is with the Body of Muladhara in our meeting.

Within the last couple months I was able to sustain about 30 days of continuous spiritual and physical activity, genuine motion in life even- new ventures, creating website, printing business cards, this was when I was working with runes that I had mentioned, and I have been pretty much de-energized since, this pattern makes it difficult to sustain any kind of new habits or change. This is even continually trying to clean up cords, attachments, keeping my aura clean, it supports my mood to do that, but, especially currently, there has been a powerful lack of energy and pervasive physical pain, difficulty breathing, shoulder pain, wrist pain, difficult standing for long, for the last 2 years every time I begin doing something important, I would catch a long lasting, wet cold.

I like the activity level of that Osho breathing meditation. I think it would be good for me. But I'm not physically capable right now, and I don't know how to become capable on a consistent basis of such an effort. It seems to be less simple than it is for other people for me.

I think it is this pattern, too, that is leading to a feeling of demotivation. I've made efforts to clean the chakras daily in the past, really tried to sustain efforts in this direction pretty much for the last two years, so failing over and over again eventually lead to a certain loss of hope and loss of trust in my capabilities. It is only in this aspect that I continuously fail, but other aspects improve. In this case maybe the issue is karmic.

So I will work on it from that direction

Статистика: Добавлено Elhaz — Пн июн 15, 2020 3:00 am


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2020-06-14T17:13:06 2020-06-14T17:13:06 http://forum.esoteric4u.com/viewtopic.php?t=517&p=4963#p4963 <![CDATA[Re: Elhaz's Way]]> Для тех кто не читает на английском, перевод поста по ссылке.
As for the Elven Monad, we can only tell what we observe, i.e. the difference between the Elven Monad and the human one.

1. Elves do not have the usual human Mind, so, they do not build the image of Themselves and do not build Intelligent Behavior based on the Image of Themselves. Elves do not live logic life, they always rely on Intuition, which they have very well developed. They can anticipate the course of events and act on the desired result that they can foresee. So, the Elves are more open and more real than the people, who invented the protective shell. From this, human and Elpha Monadas are very difficult to communicate - they build different behaviors and have fundamentally different qualities - people rely on the Lists of Memory and Logic, while the Elves rely on Intuition and Prievision, without inventing or composing anything.

2. Elves have a higher position of The Assembly Point - usually between Manipura and Anahata, while most people have a Assembly Point between Swadhistan and Manipura. As a result, the Elves (or rather the Elven Monads, for these are not Elves, but I will call them Elves for short) are much more emotional and sexy than humans.

3. Elves do not tolerate alcohol - it just knocks them out of the rut.

As a result of these and perhaps a number of other differences, the Elves feel very uncomfortable in the world of people, for they are really different.
This sometimes leads the Elves to be knowledgeable, to pride and to neglect of people, which is very sad for them.
Therefore, the main task of the Elves is to learn to perceive and accept themselves and the people around, to learn to cooperate in a relationship.

It is necessary to understand that the True Elves live in the mountains, or in the ocean, the Elven Monads in the world of humans are degraded Elves who need correction. Therefore, there is nothing to be proud of - you need to work on yourself and learn.

Concerning your young friend - send us his photo and date of birth, Oracle will look.

Having a different position of the Assemblage Point, the Elven Monads are in a different world, in a different Reality than humans, so only they themselves can explore and study their own world, their Agreement.

Статистика: Добавлено Философ — Вс июн 14, 2020 5:13 pm


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2020-06-14T09:16:01 2020-06-14T09:16:01 http://forum.esoteric4u.com/viewtopic.php?t=517&p=4962#p4962 <![CDATA[Re: Elhaz's Way]]> Для тех кто не читает на английском перевод по ссылкам: часть 1 и часть 2
Ah, my post was eaten by not being logged in. Once more, a bit shorter this time..

I met with Philosopher and the Oracle today over Skype. I was a bit nervous before the meeting but immediately calmed upon seeing them, I saw that these people are not so different than me, and without the usual forward imposition of a social image that causes me to feel ill at ease around other people. We spoke on many topics. The Oracle described to me my atypical type of Monad, the Elfin monad, and how this affects life and consciousness. It immediately explained so much of my life so far, the change went deeper than reasoning, many things just snapped into their correct focus. We spoke about chakras from the view of the Project Agreement. I had to shift a little bit to understand the building of Bodies by the chakras but not by much since I know by experience that they generate events. This understanding deepens my view of how chakras work, how to heal them, and what disease of this system looks like.

At work afterward there was a significant change in my level of confidence, centeredness, a certain removal of involvement with energies and situations that before had been causing me to have emotional reactions. I realized I should not be interacting on that level with this at all. For the first couple hours there was a small lack of energy from having the position of the assemblage point displaced upward in communication with Philosopher and the Oracle, it was difficult to speak loudly, I was a bit clumsy, a bit fumbling with words, but the qualitative deeper change remained even during this time. Later on in the night I felt better.

I sent this email with a couple questions and was told it'll be better to post:
Today was a good day for me.

I feel like I was able to keep my assemblage point close to that spot all day, even working and interacting with people.
I had an opportunity to counsel someone and make sure I was using my mind not my heart, it was helpful to do so that I didn't attune to their state. This seems to be an important way to not damage Anahata. We were able to come to the understanding that the person was creating the situation themselves, and as soon as we arrived there I asked them to change the topic.

I have a question that is best to ask now to process, about being an Elf Monad, the rest will come after practice and study.

What are some characteristics of a person of this nature?

I understand that we will naturally vary from the social position of the assemblage point, and that much human information is not relevant for us.
Also that the heart center will be more powerful in general, and development may tend to be higher. Is this variance of the assemblage point free floating or fixed in a variant position according to the personality of the monad? I am interested to know how it is possible to automatically reject social programming, and the implications of that in terms of setting a point intentionally.

Is there anything more information to know? History, source, general purpose, prevalence, something else? This seems like a very important piece of information in terms of understanding myself- it feels like a large weight has lifted off of me, I don't think I've ever heard of something that explains so much of my life in such a simple way. I had both thought there was something wrong with me because it is so difficult to understand the motivations of people. However now it suddenly is so much more clear that it is usually essentially simple. It seems it was the application of my own standards to other's behavior that made it seem complicated.

It seems to me like I have been in a pathological condition of the assemblage point by trying to grab onto parts of the social agreement and wield them to somehow be understood and accepted, when in reality what I need to do is completely accept myself and be firm.

2: I have a new friend I met at work about 2 months ago. This is a person who is clearly different from other people, I was able to begin talking to him about esoteric topics quickly, we instantly resonated. He is a good looking, smart kid with some significant problems. Every night when he goes to sleep, he has sometimes dozens of hyper-realistic dreams involving entities, guides, different worlds, realistic deaths.

He has stated he has PTSD from experiencing death hundreds of times as different personalities. He is extremely energetically sensitive, he noticed exactly the quality and type of energy I was sending to him while in a busy store, and noticed that he had received an attachment on the right side of his head which dulls his perception almost as soon as it happened.

Something tells me I should be very careful about working on him or trying to help him, but tonight he told me he may ask for my help soon. I couldn't see anything other than a karmic reason why somebody would have such strange, obscure issues before today. It seems now he may be in a similar condition as I was. Do you have any thoughts on why exactly a person may be in such a unique state?

Статистика: Добавлено Elhaz — Вс июн 14, 2020 9:16 am


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